Dr. Stephen Jones is creating change for generations. Dr. Jones is the President of SAJ Publishing and the Associate Dean of students at the College of Engineering at Villanova University. As a young child, Dr. Jones witnessed the leaders of his neighborhood strive to build a better community. He quickly made up his mind to follow in their footsteps and one day create an opportunity to personally give back and help his community develop a bigger vision. Dr. Jones joins the Technology = Equality Community for episode #70. Listen in as we chat about community, college, and commitment.
Dr. Stephen Jones is creating change for generations.
“Always planting seeds to one day blossom into opportunity!”
~Dr. Stephen Jones
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Strategy: Pay attention to the gaps in information, this can often lead to a breakthrough. Dr. Jones noticed schools were teaching information to accomplish a specific annual goal. He feels the traditional education, no matter what sector (private, public or charter) are, not teaching students how to learn. He clearly defined the need and the market with this need and began to serve. Have you defined your market? What is the need you are serving? Who is it that would have this need? How can you connect with them on a regular basis? Define, and redefine the answers to these questions as you begin your journey.
Wisdom: Transform your idea into a goal by developing a strategic plan of action for accomplishment. Get involved with motivational programs and find mentors who have achieved the goals you are looking to accomplish. Take the time to build your reputation and let people know what it is you are up to. Get started as soon as possible and always remember that patience and persistence are a requirement for this journey.
Wish: Dr. Jones is looking forward to creating change for generations. He is currently working on providing round-the-clock automated training to his community and beyond to allow everyone the ability to develop and accomplish a bigger vision.
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1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,389 but just getting started for a lot of 2 00:00:01,500 --> 00:00:05,490 families is the key whatever you're 3 00:00:03,389 --> 00:00:07,040 doing what is riding a bull or starting 4 00:00:05,490 --> 00:00:09,030 a business one day at a time 5 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,250 broadcasting from Boston Massachusetts 6 00:00:09,030 --> 00:00:20,580 you're listening to the technology 7 00:00:11,250 --> 00:00:22,890 equals a quality podcast welcome back TV 8 00:00:20,580 --> 00:00:24,449 technology because a quality podcast I'm 9 00:00:22,890 --> 00:00:27,570 your host Lori Burks 10 00:00:24,449 --> 00:00:30,060 and this is episode 70 today I have the 11 00:00:27,570 --> 00:00:33,000 absolute pleasure of welcoming dr. 12 00:00:30,060 --> 00:00:35,160 Stephen Jones to the show dr. Jones is 13 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:38,190 an engineer an accomplished public 14 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:40,980 speaker an author community activist 15 00:00:38,190 --> 00:00:43,320 entrepreneur president of SEC publishing 16 00:00:40,980 --> 00:00:45,660 and the associate dean of students at 17 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:48,920 the college of engineering at Villanova 18 00:00:45,660 --> 00:00:51,780 University dr. Jones was one of six kids 19 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,550 growing up in West Philadelphia his 20 00:00:51,780 --> 00:00:55,890 mother cooked for young children while 21 00:00:53,550 --> 00:00:56,879 his father held two jobs until it was 22 00:00:55,890 --> 00:00:59,070 near 70 23 00:00:56,879 --> 00:01:01,949 his parents instilled determination and 24 00:00:59,070 --> 00:01:04,769 faith in God as they raised a family as 25 00:01:01,949 --> 00:01:07,470 a team dr. Jones wanted to play football 26 00:01:04,769 --> 00:01:09,960 and in the interim found his passion for 27 00:01:07,470 --> 00:01:11,400 community activism the first of his 28 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:14,840 siblings to attend college 29 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:17,189 dr. Jones has spent the past 32 years 30 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,439 honoring his parents in the community 31 00:01:17,189 --> 00:01:21,750 leaders he looked up to by continuing 32 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:24,479 their legacy to help youth in his 33 00:01:21,750 --> 00:01:26,759 community dr. Jones was recently 34 00:01:24,479 --> 00:01:28,890 recognized by the Drexel University 35 00:01:26,759 --> 00:01:31,500 chapter of the National Society of black 36 00:01:28,890 --> 00:01:34,200 entrepreneurs with an award in his name 37 00:01:31,500 --> 00:01:37,920 for students who achieve academic 38 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:40,829 excellence dr. Jones is passionate about 39 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:44,909 helping students and parents in his 40 00:01:40,829 --> 00:01:48,000 community and Beyond find their road to 41 00:01:44,909 --> 00:01:50,700 success listening as dr. Jones and I 42 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:53,369 chat about community college and 43 00:01:50,700 --> 00:01:58,590 commitment dr. Jones welcome and thank 44 00:01:53,369 --> 00:02:00,930 you so much for joining us today and we 45 00:01:58,590 --> 00:02:02,850 are super excited to hear about your 46 00:02:00,930 --> 00:02:05,250 journey as an entrepreneur but what we'd 47 00:02:02,850 --> 00:02:07,350 love to do is kind of rewind the clock 48 00:02:05,250 --> 00:02:10,050 just a little bit I'd love for you to 49 00:02:07,350 --> 00:02:13,140 tell us a story of how it is you saw the 50 00:02:10,050 --> 00:02:15,000 future long before you decided to 51 00:02:13,140 --> 00:02:18,030 Dell publishing company writing your 52 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:20,010 books or you know becoming associate 53 00:02:18,030 --> 00:02:22,560 dean of students over at Villanova what 54 00:02:20,010 --> 00:02:24,570 did you think life would be like back 55 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,430 when you were a child long before even 56 00:02:24,570 --> 00:02:36,680 football what did you see the future is 57 00:02:26,430 --> 00:02:40,610 being like to do so that was like early 58 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:47,130 as early as 10 years old I had 59 00:02:40,610 --> 00:02:50,970 activities that they were doing and 60 00:02:47,130 --> 00:02:55,020 their drive to change the lives of young 61 00:02:50,970 --> 00:02:57,570 people and their drive to change 62 00:02:55,020 --> 00:03:00,000 education their drive to change business 63 00:02:57,570 --> 00:03:02,790 opportunities and entrepreneurship early 64 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:06,020 on and so just having some of those 65 00:03:02,790 --> 00:03:08,220 experiences I think carried out by 66 00:03:06,020 --> 00:03:11,220 education throughout my birth 67 00:03:08,220 --> 00:03:15,239 experiences having a passion for others 68 00:03:11,220 --> 00:03:20,940 and the opportunities that some of their 69 00:03:15,239 --> 00:03:23,970 peers are not had and for me also how I 70 00:03:20,940 --> 00:03:29,400 was the first two children to go to 71 00:03:23,970 --> 00:03:31,830 college that was a experience there many 72 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,630 people around me throughout my movie 73 00:03:31,830 --> 00:03:36,420 with alcohol accounts I really didn't 74 00:03:33,630 --> 00:03:44,340 have a lot of people to talk to and even 75 00:03:36,420 --> 00:03:48,840 in my family I didn't have the 76 00:03:44,340 --> 00:03:51,480 experiences nigga tell me I need to do 77 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:55,260 as far as applying and gone toward 78 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:57,540 college so it was all for him so it was 79 00:03:55,260 --> 00:03:59,670 pretty much a new experience for you but 80 00:03:57,540 --> 00:04:01,170 you did have community leaders and 81 00:03:59,670 --> 00:04:03,780 people that you witnessed in the 82 00:04:01,170 --> 00:04:06,150 beginning the kind of set an example for 83 00:04:03,780 --> 00:04:08,070 you in a in a manner that allowed for 84 00:04:06,150 --> 00:04:09,480 you to recognize what it is you wanted 85 00:04:08,070 --> 00:04:11,820 to do even if you didn't have the 86 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,670 specifics down pat you kind of have an 87 00:04:11,820 --> 00:04:17,370 idea as to where you wanted to take life 88 00:04:14,670 --> 00:04:19,950 as a journey as a whole which was pretty 89 00:04:17,370 --> 00:04:22,950 much to assist those that you could see 90 00:04:19,950 --> 00:04:24,599 around you really needed help but maybe 91 00:04:22,950 --> 00:04:25,690 weren't doing the things that you 92 00:04:24,599 --> 00:04:29,500 personally felt like 93 00:04:25,690 --> 00:04:33,700 could have been accomplished yeah that's 94 00:04:29,500 --> 00:04:38,230 very true and so love using a pretty big 95 00:04:33,700 --> 00:04:41,770 city from section to section are these 96 00:04:38,230 --> 00:04:46,480 local leaders and that they were wrong 97 00:04:41,770 --> 00:04:51,040 Batman understood that community to a 98 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:53,230 Stacey on a bigger vision I think that 99 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,700 the community won't romance it will have 100 00:04:53,230 --> 00:04:58,240 a bigger vision and what we see every 101 00:04:54,700 --> 00:05:03,130 day for me also was getting outside it 102 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:05,950 to visit colleges early on the idea was 103 00:05:03,130 --> 00:05:09,580 all about I didn't tell me as well 104 00:05:05,950 --> 00:05:11,710 definitely just making or taking those 105 00:05:09,580 --> 00:05:14,140 steps or taking the initiative yourself 106 00:05:11,710 --> 00:05:16,240 to kind of learn a little bit more about 107 00:05:14,140 --> 00:05:19,540 those things or those areas where you 108 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:21,580 did have the curiosity and felt like it 109 00:05:19,540 --> 00:05:25,180 would be a good idea that it that would 110 00:05:21,580 --> 00:05:28,360 help you in the future to kind of gain 111 00:05:25,180 --> 00:05:31,500 further knowledge on what school was all 112 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,500 about in terms of higher education 113 00:05:40,530 --> 00:05:46,270 region so literally you could see it and 114 00:05:44,500 --> 00:05:48,070 it was it was there and you would want 115 00:05:46,270 --> 00:05:51,700 to make me walk through the campus or 116 00:05:48,070 --> 00:05:53,410 you would drive by the campuses but to 117 00:05:51,700 --> 00:05:57,010 have a vision that you could be there 118 00:05:53,410 --> 00:06:00,430 was a different story you know that it 119 00:05:57,010 --> 00:06:01,900 really was important and knowing that 120 00:06:00,430 --> 00:06:03,780 you know I just live within your 121 00:06:01,900 --> 00:06:08,380 complete there's a bigger vision 122 00:06:03,780 --> 00:06:10,690 opportunity think about definitely and I 123 00:06:08,380 --> 00:06:12,250 feel like a lot of I'm not sure if 124 00:06:10,690 --> 00:06:16,240 you're familiar with what they call the 125 00:06:12,250 --> 00:06:17,890 Metco program I know there are there the 126 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,380 program is here in Massachusetts but I'm 127 00:06:17,890 --> 00:06:23,380 not really familiar as to what other 128 00:06:20,380 --> 00:06:25,350 states that the program is in the market 129 00:06:23,380 --> 00:06:28,540 the mecca program is a program of which 130 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:31,000 allows students that live in the inner 131 00:06:28,540 --> 00:06:33,370 city to attend schools that are in 132 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:38,720 suburban areas and communities right 133 00:06:33,370 --> 00:06:41,060 outside of that that base city so Boston 134 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:44,030 in particular does have dimecaco program 135 00:06:41,060 --> 00:06:46,190 and it allows for students to be bussed 136 00:06:44,030 --> 00:06:47,960 you know taking a school bus out to the 137 00:06:46,190 --> 00:06:52,550 suburban schools in order to have that 138 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:54,110 opportunity to obtain the education in a 139 00:06:52,550 --> 00:06:57,680 different area but also have the ability 140 00:06:54,110 --> 00:06:59,540 to see what else is out there which i 141 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,490 think is is really instrumental like you 142 00:06:59,540 --> 00:07:03,620 said terms of having that ability to 143 00:07:01,490 --> 00:07:07,940 have that vision or that thought process 144 00:07:03,620 --> 00:07:09,950 you have to have something shown to you 145 00:07:07,940 --> 00:07:12,500 and having that across Philadelphia is 146 00:07:09,950 --> 00:07:13,730 an awesome thing I know here in in the 147 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:15,980 city of Boston of course we have 148 00:07:13,730 --> 00:07:17,770 multiple universities but I still think 149 00:07:15,980 --> 00:07:19,790 that it's somewhat of a foreign 150 00:07:17,770 --> 00:07:22,250 situation for a lot of inner-city 151 00:07:19,790 --> 00:07:24,680 students simply because the campuses are 152 00:07:22,250 --> 00:07:26,990 not necessarily open to those who just 153 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,930 are choosing to be in and around them 154 00:07:26,990 --> 00:07:33,140 that's really open towards you know the 155 00:07:29,930 --> 00:07:36,350 students themselves so what did you feel 156 00:07:33,140 --> 00:07:38,900 like was instrumental for you in terms 157 00:07:36,350 --> 00:07:41,630 of taking those first steps to begin 158 00:07:38,900 --> 00:07:44,030 creating your own perceived reality for 159 00:07:41,630 --> 00:07:46,280 the future in terms of creating that 160 00:07:44,030 --> 00:07:47,780 vision for yourself aside from going to 161 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:52,120 the campuses what do you feel like you 162 00:07:47,780 --> 00:07:52,120 did personally that assisted you their 163 00:07:55,750 --> 00:08:00,980 education to me I've devised many 164 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,680 different types of spirited because what 165 00:08:00,980 --> 00:08:08,200 I'm also saying the teachers are schools 166 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:10,970 that I attended had a lot of passion for 167 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:13,250 ensuring that students master them I 168 00:08:10,970 --> 00:08:15,470 just had the foanna to some schools that 169 00:08:13,250 --> 00:08:17,840 i'll be just over school where it was 170 00:08:15,470 --> 00:08:20,750 some caring about what happened with the 171 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:23,720 students and our high school game has 172 00:08:20,750 --> 00:08:26,660 better protocol motivation program and 173 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:29,840 it exposes to different type of think 174 00:08:26,660 --> 00:08:31,520 within CFL Lafayette as well as cultural 175 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:35,289 kinda gauge which I never would have 176 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:37,910 wanted to go to an orchestra or play 177 00:08:35,289 --> 00:08:39,620 then we would then we would read books 178 00:08:37,910 --> 00:08:42,050 about Shakespeare they go see 179 00:08:39,620 --> 00:08:42,710 Shakespearean Colette I would have done 180 00:08:42,050 --> 00:08:46,550 it on my own 181 00:08:42,710 --> 00:08:49,880 Rainie Rainie those type of exposure is 182 00:08:46,550 --> 00:08:54,170 key to allied 183 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:57,680 as well yes that those is worth having 184 00:08:54,170 --> 00:08:59,780 teachers who understand the future isn't 185 00:08:57,680 --> 00:09:01,750 what they invest in why the children 186 00:08:59,780 --> 00:09:06,680 they see every day 187 00:09:01,750 --> 00:09:08,690 definitely it's a do that for people no 188 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:11,000 I think it's very very important and 189 00:09:08,690 --> 00:09:12,890 you're speaking some amazing truth right 190 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:16,600 now when it comes to teachers if there's 191 00:09:12,890 --> 00:09:20,600 not a passion and they're not truly 192 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:23,900 attempting to facilitate success as a 193 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:25,730 future prospect or reality for those 194 00:09:23,900 --> 00:09:27,980 that they're interacting on a day to day 195 00:09:25,730 --> 00:09:30,500 basis not just once in a blue moon or 196 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:33,260 special occasions or assemblies but on a 197 00:09:30,500 --> 00:09:35,330 day-to-day fashion you know it can be 198 00:09:33,260 --> 00:09:37,220 dead from detrimental to the students 199 00:09:35,330 --> 00:09:39,410 themselves do you feel like there was a 200 00:09:37,220 --> 00:09:48,590 specific teacher or a specific moment 201 00:09:39,410 --> 00:09:52,870 that contributed to your success I do 202 00:09:48,590 --> 00:09:56,200 remember my math teachers baby 203 00:09:52,870 --> 00:10:01,610 they had cash to comment and maybe 204 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:04,070 interesting oh and I do say today is not 205 00:10:01,610 --> 00:10:07,430 just me they don't see a connection for 206 00:10:04,070 --> 00:10:09,110 and so on to the board man oh I think 207 00:10:07,430 --> 00:10:12,290 we've actually done some research 208 00:10:09,110 --> 00:10:13,910 relation shown that students that have a 209 00:10:12,290 --> 00:10:18,220 great attitude man 210 00:10:13,910 --> 00:10:21,050 do how they go on to college and 211 00:10:18,220 --> 00:10:24,590 discipline to do good man I'm saluting 212 00:10:21,050 --> 00:10:28,730 cuffs their education overall so that 213 00:10:24,590 --> 00:10:31,400 was just the idea that those courses are 214 00:10:28,730 --> 00:10:34,220 offered one of the challenges in Detroit 215 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:37,310 is that if you take higher level math 216 00:10:34,220 --> 00:10:39,010 courses they're not offered so you end 217 00:10:37,310 --> 00:10:42,350 up never give up to a community college 218 00:10:39,010 --> 00:10:44,600 ruin some spare and upsetting their time 219 00:10:42,350 --> 00:10:46,700 to a private college is additional 220 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:50,270 education what did you find to be the 221 00:10:46,700 --> 00:10:52,220 most difficult part of starting your 222 00:10:50,270 --> 00:10:55,670 publishing company what did you think 223 00:10:52,220 --> 00:10:57,380 was you know the biggest hindrance for 224 00:10:55,670 --> 00:10:58,940 you in terms of getting that off the 225 00:10:57,380 --> 00:11:01,550 ground and beginning to brand yourself 226 00:10:58,940 --> 00:11:04,520 out as a book publisher 227 00:11:01,550 --> 00:11:07,430 that's an excellent question and the 228 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:09,290 biggest challenge to me was the people 229 00:11:07,430 --> 00:11:12,500 that I thought that I knew very well 230 00:11:09,290 --> 00:11:15,140 especially for our community that 231 00:11:12,500 --> 00:11:19,220 booklet atop my books right okay and 232 00:11:15,140 --> 00:11:23,600 have you do seminars and engage with me 233 00:11:19,220 --> 00:11:26,420 were little shouted yes I did actually 234 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:29,450 travel outside of hood up his elder 235 00:11:26,420 --> 00:11:33,560 leaders in York and build my reputation 236 00:11:29,450 --> 00:11:35,570 out he didn't come back and do some 237 00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:38,270 things with Philadelphia and they had to 238 00:11:35,570 --> 00:11:39,830 grant that came through so the other 239 00:11:38,270 --> 00:11:43,630 thing I was interested not with that 240 00:11:39,830 --> 00:11:45,740 immediately these particular schools and 241 00:11:43,630 --> 00:11:47,899 administrators and counselors would 242 00:11:45,740 --> 00:11:51,529 purchase little critter students that it 243 00:11:47,899 --> 00:11:55,100 would be educated to make happen but 244 00:11:51,529 --> 00:11:58,850 that was really my biggest surprise how 245 00:11:55,100 --> 00:12:03,560 much work it took to get their biggest 246 00:11:58,850 --> 00:12:07,430 validate me I didn't give up I just I I 247 00:12:03,560 --> 00:12:10,760 just kept at it and kept pushing forward 248 00:12:07,430 --> 00:12:13,010 with the importance of it and how good 249 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:15,470 to understand that students don't know 250 00:12:13,010 --> 00:12:17,000 how to study we're giving we wonder to 251 00:12:15,470 --> 00:12:18,620 do well in school when I teach you know 252 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:22,690 how is that we Detailers ready for a 253 00:12:18,620 --> 00:12:25,310 test or a teacher how's that right right 254 00:12:22,690 --> 00:12:27,500 drilling information is very different 255 00:12:25,310 --> 00:12:30,500 than learning how to learn it's very 256 00:12:27,500 --> 00:12:32,060 very different so I agree 100% but I'd 257 00:12:30,500 --> 00:12:33,440 actually like to kind of take it back 258 00:12:32,060 --> 00:12:34,760 just a little bit because I think you 259 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,610 said something that was that rather 260 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,140 instrumental I think is is important for 261 00:12:37,610 --> 00:12:41,390 the audience to have the opportunity to 262 00:12:39,140 --> 00:12:42,770 kind of hear a little deep dive into you 263 00:12:41,390 --> 00:12:43,970 mentioned that when you start at the 264 00:12:42,770 --> 00:12:46,250 book publishing company you were 265 00:12:43,970 --> 00:12:48,140 surprised that you kind of had to step 266 00:12:46,250 --> 00:12:51,709 out of Philadelphia in order to build up 267 00:12:48,140 --> 00:12:54,110 that reputation and your work history 268 00:12:51,709 --> 00:12:55,880 and so forth in order to actually come 269 00:12:54,110 --> 00:12:57,709 back to Philly and work with the schools 270 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,959 and and the administrators that you 271 00:12:57,709 --> 00:13:03,230 initially intended and thought would 272 00:12:59,959 --> 00:13:04,880 originally adopt the program as it was 273 00:13:03,230 --> 00:13:06,500 and I think that's interesting because 274 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,779 it's actually something that I've seen 275 00:13:06,500 --> 00:13:11,690 as rather common it may not necessarily 276 00:13:08,779 --> 00:13:13,940 be outside of your specific your state 277 00:13:11,690 --> 00:13:14,710 or your city limits but it definitely is 278 00:13:13,940 --> 00:13:17,620 common among 279 00:13:14,710 --> 00:13:19,780 entrepreneurs do not have the ability to 280 00:13:17,620 --> 00:13:22,300 build out the practice with the people 281 00:13:19,780 --> 00:13:24,370 that I that they initially intended to 282 00:13:22,300 --> 00:13:27,520 and it's part of the journey being able 283 00:13:24,370 --> 00:13:29,980 to pivot and kind of go with how it is 284 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:32,560 your product is is received by the 285 00:13:29,980 --> 00:13:35,170 market as a whole may not necessarily be 286 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:38,980 what you're thinking it is at first so 287 00:13:35,170 --> 00:13:41,020 I'm curious when you realize that those 288 00:13:38,980 --> 00:13:43,780 that you were intending to initially 289 00:13:41,020 --> 00:13:45,910 target we're not actually as receptive 290 00:13:43,780 --> 00:13:47,800 what did you do to help yourself get 291 00:13:45,910 --> 00:13:50,800 past that and make the decision to move 292 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:52,440 beyond the Philadelphia area versus 293 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,000 doing what I've witnessed some 294 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,470 entrepreneurs do which is kind of give 295 00:13:55,000 --> 00:14:00,480 up and decide that it's time to get over 296 00:13:56,470 --> 00:14:00,480 it because nobody has shown interest 297 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:09,760 really important so I had this shit up 298 00:14:06,340 --> 00:14:13,260 father filled up yeah and I maintain 299 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:17,700 those over here so made it easy to 300 00:14:13,260 --> 00:14:20,290 approach them and get their support I 301 00:14:17,700 --> 00:14:23,080 think that's so important as you develop 302 00:14:20,290 --> 00:14:27,220 your career as your devotee because if 303 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:30,820 you haven't or outside of your even your 304 00:14:27,220 --> 00:14:33,730 immediate community of people and and so 305 00:14:30,820 --> 00:14:35,800 those people were great every forces we 306 00:14:33,730 --> 00:14:39,160 go in the life Bank don't give up and 307 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:41,800 hear those people say it was reinforcing 308 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:44,880 and then the other we have the second 309 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:47,520 part of that was that I continue to 310 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:50,680 participate in meetings and events and 311 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:54,250 Philadelphia to keep myself visible 312 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:56,170 because I believe at some point it was 313 00:14:54,250 --> 00:14:58,650 these opportunities will become 314 00:14:56,170 --> 00:15:01,390 available and I'm going to still be a 315 00:14:58,650 --> 00:15:04,630 tickle for those opportunities you get 316 00:15:01,390 --> 00:15:06,250 about right allowing yourself to have 317 00:15:04,630 --> 00:15:08,530 the opportunities in the future and not 318 00:15:06,250 --> 00:15:11,110 necessarily getting them or ignoring it 319 00:15:08,530 --> 00:15:13,090 and I think that's also really great 320 00:15:11,110 --> 00:15:15,220 that you made sure to keep yourself 321 00:15:13,090 --> 00:15:17,200 surrounded by what I what I like to 322 00:15:15,220 --> 00:15:18,640 consider positive peers making sure that 323 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,440 the people around you or those that are 324 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,420 going to support and believe in the 325 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,950 journey to help you get through that 326 00:15:22,420 --> 00:15:24,780 moment I find that that really is 327 00:15:23,950 --> 00:15:26,400 something that's in 328 00:15:24,780 --> 00:15:27,750 tremendo to a lot of entrepreneurs 329 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,280 across the board and when I asked that 330 00:15:27,750 --> 00:15:31,320 question what is it that helped you get 331 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,480 through the most difficult piece it 332 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,730 tends to be the people that surround it 333 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:38,490 by so as an audience I hope you guys are 334 00:15:35,730 --> 00:15:40,110 taking note of that big time that it's 335 00:15:38,490 --> 00:15:41,660 really really really important to 336 00:15:40,110 --> 00:15:44,940 surround yourself with the right people 337 00:15:41,660 --> 00:15:46,650 so dr. Jones you are the associate dean 338 00:15:44,940 --> 00:15:49,200 of students over at Villanova and you're 339 00:15:46,650 --> 00:15:51,990 also with psych publishing but I'd love 340 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:54,090 to know what are some of the projects 341 00:15:51,990 --> 00:15:56,610 that you have going on right now you've 342 00:15:54,090 --> 00:15:58,170 recently released a new book so I'd love 343 00:15:56,610 --> 00:16:08,250 for you to tell us a little bit about 344 00:15:58,170 --> 00:16:12,060 tag Publishing of course companies do to 345 00:16:08,250 --> 00:16:17,040 prepare for yeah additional education on 346 00:16:12,060 --> 00:16:19,650 their k12 experience and one of the used 347 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:23,010 to do I had one of the comments I said I 348 00:16:19,650 --> 00:16:25,710 wanted to help first-generation students 349 00:16:23,010 --> 00:16:27,270 to get into college and my goal was 350 00:16:25,710 --> 00:16:30,240 helping to be successful that 351 00:16:27,270 --> 00:16:32,580 consistently found that students didn't 352 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,470 know how to study even that was a big 353 00:16:32,580 --> 00:16:36,090 challenge whether they had gone to a 354 00:16:34,470 --> 00:16:37,560 prestigious school or where they are 355 00:16:36,090 --> 00:16:40,650 going through the journals you know 356 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:42,360 public school or but they were facing 357 00:16:40,650 --> 00:16:43,980 this challenge of how to study just 358 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,690 because you can take a test doesn't mean 359 00:16:43,980 --> 00:16:48,150 you know how to just some idea of 360 00:16:45,690 --> 00:16:51,270 learning and happens the methods and 361 00:16:48,150 --> 00:16:53,550 manage your time cause me to initially 362 00:16:51,270 --> 00:16:54,720 start writing this book and one of the 363 00:16:53,550 --> 00:16:57,030 things I would say to everyone out there 364 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,740 is when whatever you're doing what is 365 00:16:57,030 --> 00:17:00,180 writing a book or starting a business 366 00:16:58,740 --> 00:17:03,240 one day at a time 367 00:17:00,180 --> 00:17:06,060 so why was my philosophies are if I like 368 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:08,640 one page a day I'm closer than that was 369 00:17:06,060 --> 00:17:10,890 the day before and so as you have goals 370 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,020 and plans were just taking steps every 371 00:17:10,890 --> 00:17:14,280 day toward those goals and plans and 372 00:17:13,020 --> 00:17:17,010 things are happening in the midst of 373 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:19,920 that that happy to achieve it ultimately 374 00:17:17,010 --> 00:17:23,250 the end goal where you want to get to 375 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:25,740 and so it took me a year to do the first 376 00:17:23,250 --> 00:17:27,360 book that I was persistent wherever I 377 00:17:25,740 --> 00:17:29,700 had an opportunity I was going to write 378 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:31,860 this book as I am I finished the book I 379 00:17:29,700 --> 00:17:32,490 finally had it published I was able to 380 00:17:31,860 --> 00:17:34,920 go 381 00:17:32,490 --> 00:17:36,870 that started telling everybody and 382 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:39,420 everybody that this book was coming out 383 00:17:36,870 --> 00:17:41,850 and I would go on radio programs and so 384 00:17:39,420 --> 00:17:44,040 forth I was building up to the release 385 00:17:41,850 --> 00:17:46,200 of the book and then that first book 386 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,030 came out and I started of course 387 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,160 marketing the book selling the book 388 00:17:48,030 --> 00:17:52,740 doing public relations I was on a lot of 389 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:55,590 radio programs we didn't have as many 390 00:17:52,740 --> 00:17:57,929 podcasts as we have today but as they 391 00:17:55,590 --> 00:18:00,090 came along I started doing podcasting as 392 00:17:57,929 --> 00:18:02,250 well and the funny part is that 393 00:18:00,090 --> 00:18:04,890 sometimes I would be on a radio program 394 00:18:02,250 --> 00:18:08,450 let's say I'm here it's July 395 00:18:04,890 --> 00:18:11,130 well I wouldn't hear from someone until 396 00:18:08,450 --> 00:18:14,370 November that they were listening to the 397 00:18:11,130 --> 00:18:15,929 radio program so again just because you 398 00:18:14,370 --> 00:18:17,309 don't get an immediate response on what 399 00:18:15,929 --> 00:18:19,140 you're doing you're always planting 400 00:18:17,309 --> 00:18:20,610 seeds except you're planting seeds 401 00:18:19,140 --> 00:18:22,080 you're planting more season the next 402 00:18:20,610 --> 00:18:24,059 thing you know that they blossom and 403 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,770 opportunities come out of that set so 404 00:18:24,059 --> 00:18:28,320 the first book was for the student 405 00:18:25,770 --> 00:18:31,290 middle school high school first year 406 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,970 college on how to study and then the 407 00:18:31,290 --> 00:18:35,100 second book I started as assertiveness 408 00:18:32,970 --> 00:18:38,580 my parents wanted me to do a book for 409 00:18:35,100 --> 00:18:40,050 them and that book was around how do i 410 00:18:38,580 --> 00:18:42,030 as a parent have my child to be a 411 00:18:40,050 --> 00:18:43,470 successful student what are the things 412 00:18:42,030 --> 00:18:45,540 that other parents are doing to help 413 00:18:43,470 --> 00:18:47,910 their children be successful student and 414 00:18:45,540 --> 00:18:49,620 I kind of go through how to help your 415 00:18:47,910 --> 00:18:50,880 student transition from elementary 416 00:18:49,620 --> 00:18:52,530 school to middle school middle school 417 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,840 high school high school to college and 418 00:18:52,530 --> 00:18:56,850 Apple a whole lot of resources for the 419 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:59,070 parents for life school district I've 420 00:18:56,850 --> 00:19:01,860 done seminars and a series with their 421 00:18:59,070 --> 00:19:04,230 parents throughout the year and I can 422 00:19:01,860 --> 00:19:06,990 see that how that can impact whole 423 00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:08,670 families if I can help this one parent 424 00:19:06,990 --> 00:19:11,730 who has three children or four children 425 00:19:08,670 --> 00:19:12,390 now they know what to do with them as 426 00:19:11,730 --> 00:19:14,340 they go along 427 00:19:12,390 --> 00:19:16,380 and then my additional book that I have 428 00:19:14,340 --> 00:19:17,970 is a scholarship book and that just 429 00:19:16,380 --> 00:19:19,890 tells you how to access all this money 430 00:19:17,970 --> 00:19:21,720 to go to send your child to college or 431 00:19:19,890 --> 00:19:24,750 trade school there is a lot of money out 432 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:27,900 there and that if you if you apply 433 00:19:24,750 --> 00:19:29,850 consistently if you have connections 434 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:32,340 with various corporations there are 435 00:19:29,850 --> 00:19:34,320 scholarships that have over under 436 00:19:32,340 --> 00:19:35,610 scholarship websites that are in part a 437 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,470 part of the book but just getting 438 00:19:35,610 --> 00:19:39,480 started for a lot of families is the key 439 00:19:37,470 --> 00:19:41,010 and I would tell them have a night of 440 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,230 the week that's your scholarship night 441 00:19:41,010 --> 00:19:43,770 mm-hmm and I give them a lot of other 442 00:19:43,230 --> 00:19:46,800 kind 443 00:19:43,770 --> 00:19:47,990 tips a big used do the essays and make 444 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,890 sure that they have a winning 445 00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:51,960 opportunity when they're applying for 446 00:19:49,890 --> 00:19:54,690 the scholarship they don't give up tell 447 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:57,300 me that's really important and all this 448 00:19:54,690 --> 00:20:00,560 is it's in my website they can access it 449 00:19:57,300 --> 00:20:00,560 through the website which is 450 00:20:04,850 --> 00:20:07,850 www.hyken.com 451 00:20:16,220 --> 00:20:20,490 so we will be sure to link to that 452 00:20:18,660 --> 00:20:21,900 through the show notes page it can go 453 00:20:20,490 --> 00:20:24,720 ahead and grab a copy of any of the 454 00:20:21,900 --> 00:20:27,180 books that they may be interested dr. 455 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:29,820 Jones if we had a time machine and could 456 00:20:27,180 --> 00:20:32,700 go back see 10 to 20 years and how 457 00:20:29,820 --> 00:20:34,290 yourself just one thing or give yourself 458 00:20:32,700 --> 00:20:37,910 some sort of advice what do you feel 459 00:20:34,290 --> 00:20:42,110 like that I think the advice would be to 460 00:20:37,910 --> 00:20:46,980 make sure I have a play consistent plan 461 00:20:42,110 --> 00:20:50,040 because you kind of go off of track if 462 00:20:46,980 --> 00:20:53,880 you haven't written down your plan and I 463 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:57,930 think I had different ideas but I hadn't 464 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:59,670 thermalized it into an actual plan at 465 00:20:57,930 --> 00:21:02,400 some point along the line I did put the 466 00:20:59,670 --> 00:21:04,650 Kessler plan and I've seen the fruit of 467 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:07,380 that but I would definitely have done it 468 00:21:04,650 --> 00:21:09,510 a lot earlier and they have these 469 00:21:07,380 --> 00:21:12,390 business plans that you can write better 470 00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:13,740 really productive in terms of clarifying 471 00:21:12,390 --> 00:21:15,960 your vision and where you want to go to 472 00:21:13,740 --> 00:21:17,910 I just knew for example I needed to be 473 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,430 on a radio on the ins if I write 474 00:21:17,910 --> 00:21:23,250 articles I needed to these kinds of 475 00:21:20,430 --> 00:21:25,470 things but systemically not having a 476 00:21:23,250 --> 00:21:27,600 plan to just kind of try this and try 477 00:21:25,470 --> 00:21:29,400 that and see what happens it's funny a 478 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,900 couple of moments ago you were 479 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,540 mentioning that you are kind of just 480 00:21:30,900 --> 00:21:35,220 taking baby steps in the direction of 481 00:21:33,540 --> 00:21:37,260 what it is you wanted to accomplish 482 00:21:35,220 --> 00:21:39,300 regardless as to where the baby steps 483 00:21:37,260 --> 00:21:40,920 are going you were kind of just making 484 00:21:39,300 --> 00:21:43,440 sure that you were taking them to get 485 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:46,320 ahead in general and I think adding in 486 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:48,900 the structure definitely makes a 487 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:51,750 difference like no matter how small the 488 00:21:48,900 --> 00:21:53,910 baby steps are you'll get to wherever it 489 00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:55,860 is you want to go if you just keep 490 00:21:53,910 --> 00:21:57,630 taking them and I think 491 00:21:55,860 --> 00:21:59,160 that is exactly what you were doing this 492 00:21:57,630 --> 00:22:01,470 kind of taking those baby steps and then 493 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,570 layering in the structure of where it is 494 00:22:01,470 --> 00:22:05,370 those baby steps were going to take you 495 00:22:03,570 --> 00:22:08,190 the show is really designed to help 496 00:22:05,370 --> 00:22:10,080 entrepreneurs come up with an idea or to 497 00:22:08,190 --> 00:22:12,240 solve a beam in an industry that they 498 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,820 may not have really been thinking of and 499 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,860 we would love to help you if you had a 500 00:22:14,820 --> 00:22:19,049 magic wand and could change anything at 501 00:22:16,860 --> 00:22:22,320 all in your business what would it be 502 00:22:19,049 --> 00:22:25,080 and why I think I think I would change 503 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:27,890 is something alleging what anyone right 504 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:32,460 now which is to have more of a webinar 505 00:22:27,890 --> 00:22:35,549 presence I believe that those kinds of 506 00:22:32,460 --> 00:22:37,440 trainings would allow people to just go 507 00:22:35,549 --> 00:22:39,030 on I could be asleep in it watch the 508 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,679 video they get more training and 509 00:22:39,030 --> 00:22:42,840 information that's something that I 510 00:22:40,679 --> 00:22:45,179 think if I could wave one and make it 511 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,780 happen in a big way right now that would 512 00:22:45,179 --> 00:22:47,850 be awesome 513 00:22:45,780 --> 00:22:49,620 definitely the ability to recreate that 514 00:22:47,850 --> 00:22:51,750 knowledge and have the ability to reach 515 00:22:49,620 --> 00:22:55,140 people despite whether or not you are 516 00:22:51,750 --> 00:22:57,960 presently available the 24/7 automated 517 00:22:55,140 --> 00:22:59,669 version of you that sounds amazing and I 518 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,620 know that you are currently working on 519 00:22:59,669 --> 00:23:03,299 creating some of those videos in the 520 00:23:01,620 --> 00:23:05,160 background so we'll keep our eyes open 521 00:23:03,299 --> 00:23:07,590 for that and be sure to link to that as 522 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,900 well once they're up and ready for your 523 00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:12,210 audience but I believe that you have 524 00:23:09,900 --> 00:23:15,900 shared with us the best way to reach you 525 00:23:12,210 --> 00:23:17,790 being dr. Stephen Jones net which we 526 00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:19,980 will again be sure to link to through 527 00:23:17,790 --> 00:23:22,500 the show notes page dr. Jones you've 528 00:23:19,980 --> 00:23:26,120 been absolutely lovely this morning 529 00:23:22,500 --> 00:23:26,120 thank you thank you so much thank you 530 00:23:28,820 --> 00:23:34,020 dr. Jones thank you again for joining us 531 00:23:31,530 --> 00:23:35,549 this week for episode 70 we truly 532 00:23:34,020 --> 00:23:38,580 appreciate you sharing your time and 533 00:23:35,549 --> 00:23:40,950 expertise with us techy community if you 534 00:23:38,580 --> 00:23:43,740 are looking for a way to give back to 535 00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:45,630 your community a way to help students in 536 00:23:43,740 --> 00:23:48,750 your neighborhood increase their 537 00:23:45,630 --> 00:23:54,120 academic success and prepare for college 538 00:23:48,750 --> 00:23:56,840 success contact dr. Jones as a gift dr. 539 00:23:54,120 --> 00:24:00,390 Jones is providing you with a free 540 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:03,360 one-hour consultation to help you and 541 00:24:00,390 --> 00:24:06,480 your child map out a plan reach out to 542 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:08,100 dr. Jones at dr. Stephen Jones dotnet 543 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,140 you can always reach him through our 544 00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:13,820 show nuts 545 00:24:09,140 --> 00:24:16,520 at technology - equality dot-com /dr 546 00:24:13,820 --> 00:24:19,100 Steven Jones thank you again for tuning 547 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:21,530 in to episode 70 and until our next 548 00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:23,240 episode when we continue to hear the 549 00:24:21,530 --> 00:24:27,100 journey find the pain and create 550 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,100 solutions enjoy the week 551 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:55,900 [Music] 552 00:24:57,140 --> 00:24:59,200 you